Philippe III of Thurey

Philippe de Thurey is a prelate of the 14th century and 14th century

Nephew of Guillaume II of Thurey, Archbishop of Lyon, it could be born with Narbonne towards 1335 of Guichard de Thurey and Jeanne of the Fen.

Deceased in Lyon in 1415 (cf will)

Some dates and facts of the life of Philippe de Thurey:

" After the passage of the Truck drivers (in 1462, NDR), PdT exhorts its diocesans to come to assistance of the monks for the rebuilding of the parish church of St Andre, and that of the hospital, and publishes indulgences in favor of those which will contribute to this good œuvre." T I p.192 " In 1371, PhdT is canon and count de Lyon and became archbishop of Lyon in 1389" T I p.177 Beaujolais wine - Drill - Dombes Henri Billet

" 1389: replace Jean de Talaru as archbishop of Lyon, adviser of State de Charles V. 1390: lord of the country (Lyon) Philippe de Thurey, archbishop of Lyon, make an agreement between the ecclesiastics and the city on the fact of the burials, on February 23rd, 1390. In 1400, he is count de Lyon." E. of Villeneuve: Municipal Cartulaire of the town of Lyon G. Paradin: History of Lyon, 1573 Kleinclausz: History of Lyon, 1939

" Between 1392 and 1399, PhdT, archbishop of Lyon, tried, by its authority, to calm the arguments between Edouard II of Beaujeu and the inhabitants of Villefranche. It was accepted like referee and asked the parts to articulate, in writing, their objections respectifs." T I p. 184 Beaujolais wine - Drill - Dombes Henri Billet

" To advise State of Charles VI, was elected archbishop of Lyon about 1339 (there was certainly error of copy: 1389 should be read, and which more is, it is probably about Charles V. NDR), after the death of Jean de Talaru who had succeeded Charles d' Alençon. The long ones and scandalous contentions took place under its episcopate, about the administration of justice in the city and baronnie of Lyon. Letters patent of April 3rd, 1393 having authorized it to drive out city and palate of Roanne the officers of the king, Philippe de Thurey made put these letters at execution by one named Givry. This one, preceded by several ecclesiastics carrying of the hand lanterns, had gone to the hotel of Roanne and had expelled the seneshal of it. He had opened the prisons with two criminals, removed room of the pleadings the table of the royal decrees, allowed one named Cartula to go up to move back on an ass and to trail in the streets, by shouting " all is gained, we do not have more king! " , a sign where the weapons of the king were painted. Complaint was deposited at the Parliament of Paris which, by stop of October 5th, 1394, broke the letters patent of April 5th, 1393, punishes Givry and Catula, and condemned the archbishop to pay damages with the officers of the king, who were immediately restored. In spite of this stop, Philippe de Thurey disturbed even more once royal officers in the exercise of their functions. In 1409, it attended the council of Pisa. The following year, it made the relevation of the body of Irenee saint, Episode saint and Alexandre saint. He died on November 28th, 1415 and had as a successor Amédée de Talaru." A.P. (A. Péricaud): Notes and documents to be used with the history as Lyon, Bibli. universal Michaud

" The Whit Monday, May 26th, 1365, Renaud of T., brother of Philippe, brings to the chapter of Lyon, the news of the death of their uncle the Guillaume archbishop.

In 1415, Philippe de Thurey names abbot of Savigny one of his own nephews (let us note that the monks having refused it, the archbishop excommunicated all the monks…)" J. Beyssac: Provosts of Fourvière, pp. 131-161

Book of Beyssac, one will retain that pH. T, in its will written the 8/27/1412, bequeaths to his/her Girard brother all that it had received from his family. The original of this will written in low-Latin on a parchment is visible with the departmental records of the Rhone, Montée of the Carmelite friars. One will find the extract of the will below (9 typed pages….) relating to it, as well as an approximate translation:

(33) “Item dat idem Dominus testator atque legate nobili and potenti viro domino Gerardo de Thureyo militi fratri suo carissimo omnia bona sweated ipsius Domini testatori paterna and materna, ac omnia the quacumque Jura eidem Domini testatoris in eisdem profits competentia of caused, and in eisdem profits dictum suum fratrum hoeredem suum facit ipse Dominus testator and instituit, and ore suo landlord nominat ac ess vult. Sive Ita tamen quod ipse dominus Gerardus ejus frater not possit nec valeat quovismodo succedere aliquodjuris, petere vel interpellare in residues bonorum ipsius Dominus testator mobilium, and immobilium per ipsum Dominus testator acquisitorum, and acquirendorum, and notissime in and super domo sweated ipsius Dominus testator sita in claustro sancti Joannis lugduni, ac in domo ejusdem Dominus testator vocata Rivoyre retro praedictam aliam domum suam sita juxta suos veros and legitimos confine: In casu quo ipse frater suus vel fili petere, vel interpellare calves countered hujusmodi voluntatem and ordinationem ejusdem Dominus testator (quod absit) eo casu ipse Dominus testator ipsa bona quae C supra eidem fratri suo praedicto legavit, and denied, dat and legate perpetuo idem Dominus testator praedictis venerabilibus viris fratribus and sociis am carissimis decano, and capitulo dictae lugduni ecclesiae which nunc sunt, ac which pro in time fuerint and ipsos in eisdem profits hoeredes suos facit idem Dominus testator and instituit ore that suo landlord nominat, and ess vult, eo mediant quod ipsi domini decanus and capitulum hujusmodi suam ultimam voluntatem teneantur deffendere and observare, facereque and observari am ipsorum dominorum decani, and capituli propriis sumptibus and expensis. ”

(33) “And the Lord testator gives and bequeaths to noble and powerful man the lord Gerard de Thurey, his very dear brother knight, all the goods of the Lord Testator of paternal and maternal origin and all the rights of this same Lord testator on these same goods, in some competence and causes that it is; and the Lord made testator himself and institutes his above-named brother like his heir to these same goods, and names it its own mouth and wants that it is thus. However, so that this same lord Gerard his brother cannot nor wants in no manner or by any legal means to penetrate, seek to obtain from advantage or to disturb the distribution of the other movable goods of the Lord testator himself and real assets or to acquire by him Seigneur testator and particularly what milked at the house of the Lord testator himself located in the cloister of Jean Saint of Lyon, as well as the house of the same Lord testator called Rivoyre mentioned above its house located beside its true and legitimate close goods; If his/her brother himself or his sons would like to claim or to go against the will and the provisions thus stated of the same Lord testator (because it is not any more), in this case, the Lord testator himself, which had bequeathed and given these same goods to his/her aforesaid brother, the Lord testator gives them and bequeaths them to perpetuity with the very worthy aforesaid men, his very expensive brothers and companions the senior, and the chaplain current of the aforesaid the church of Lyon and which were it of its time, and of the same the Lord testator do them and institutes them heirs to these goods, them which it names of his own mouth, and wants that, thus interposing, the senior and the chaplain of the lord himself are held to defend and respect, carry out and make respect this ultimate will, with the proper expenses and costs of these lords senior and chaplain. ”

That one can translate into good French: “Me, Philippe de Thurey, I bequeath to my brother Gerard de Thurey all the goods which come me from dad and mom. If it were warned to want to dispute my will, these goods would be immediately allotted to the senior and to the chaplain, with their own expenses. ” What was to encourage each part to respect the wills of the late one.

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